The new key to the White House

[epronovost]

With the failure of the famous 12 key system in this election, I propose a new system of key to determine who will win the White House.

The key is a three fold system; if one cannot be answered the next one takes over.

Key number 1: Is racism on the ballot (is in one candidate defends white supremacist and the other opposes it)? If yes, the racist candidate wins.

Key number 2: If racism isn't on the ballot (as in both candidates are white supremacists or neither are) Is sexism on the ballot? If yes, the misogynistic candidate wins.

Key number 3: If neither racism nor sexism are on the ballot the Democrat and Republican Party will alternate in power every height years or so unless a major war, pandemic or worldwide economical crisis has occured.

It's a bit hyperbolic, but I do think it's widely effective if you look back at the last elections.

[Minimalist]

America:


Born:  July 4, 1776

Died:  November 5, 2024

Cause of Death:  Suicide


Lincoln was right.

[Vorpal]

I don't know if it is wise to just give into the fact that many men believe that the vast majority of female personalities are not suited for the role of President. Harris's run did achieve progress. She conducted her campaign with class and dignity. She demonstrated the ability to be rational and forthright. Winning would have been a fat sight better, but trying so well could be a building block for future acceptance.

Unfortunately, the practical approach would be to nominate a white woman prior to adding more intersectional variety in a Presidential candidacy. A Vietnamese trans male with a disability may not be our next choice.

[epronovost]

I don't know if it is wise to just give into the fact that many men believe that the vast majority of female personalities are not suited for the role of President.  Harris's run did achieve progress. She conducted her campaign with class and dignity. She demonstrated the ability to be rational and forthright.  Winning would have been a fat sight better, but trying so well could be a building block for future acceptance

While all you just said is perfectly accurate, that's not what I would call "progress". This had already been done before. It could have been said of Hillary Clinton too. She conducted a fairly classy campaign and demonstrated the ability to be rational and forthright too, but it failed. Sure, I would say Kamala Harris did a better campaign than Hillary Clinton, but both did show without doubt they had the skills necessary to be president. One could also point out to high profile senatorial or governatorial races for women in high political office.

I think the failures of both Kamala and Hillary against such a pathetic candidate as Donald Trump will be met with a backlash against women in such position of power. One also need to remember that, historically, when it comes down to women's right, the "backlash" is harshest not after women make gains, but when they are on the cusp to make some or gain acceptance.

[jerry mcmasters]

Before ruling in sexism and racism, how exactly do you rule out other factors? Maybe America is ready for a woman president, just not this one.

[Rhythmcs]

Ivanka 2028? Donald won on a platform of mass deportations now. I don't know why we still have to performatively suggest that magats aren't deeply racist crybabies.

[jerry mcmasters]

Whatever gets you off.

[mordant]

I think the failures of both Kamala and Hillary against such a pathetic candidate as Donald Trump will be met with a backlash against women in such position of power.

In many places besides 'Murica, women have already been very successful in power and that's already an established fact. Merkle in Germany, Ardern in New Zealand, for example. There is no basis, for anyone wiling to look at actual evidence, that women cannot lead nations. What's going on in 'Murica is that Christian fundamentalists have become radicalized and they do not want women (much less, in their racist minds, a black woman) anywhere but barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen.

The campaign didn't fail just because Harris is a woman in an aggressively misogynistic society, it failed because she refused to be.a change candidate by not articulating the slightest policy difference from Biden, including on the Gaza genocide; because the Democratic Party refused to acknowledge the economic struggles of its own alleged constituency, the working class, preferring inane tone-deaf nattering about the GDP and the stock market; because according to exit polls, 50 to 75% of voters (depending on the state) were either worried or angry and that is a recipe for embracing authoritarians who promise to magically make it all Go Away; because the campaign was run on vibes / feelings, women's rights to bodily autonomy that even many women apparently weren't sufficiently exercised to defend, and being "Not Trump" which should have been plenty sufficient but just served to enhance Trump's appeal to his own base. Own the libs for the win!

[mordant]

I don't know why we still have to performatively suggest that magats aren't deeply racist crybabies.

Deeply racist privileged toxic crybabies with delusions of grandeur and zero epistemological humility who reflexively wish suffering and trauma on anyone who doesn't 110% agree with their twisted and hateful ideology.

[Rhythmcs]

Indeed. Case in point, the donald didn't say he would magically make the problems go away. He said he would fix them by stealing brown peoples homes and deporting them to wherever. Magic would have been a ludicrous suggestion..and still..somehow..better than the actual pitch.

[Szuchow]

I don't know why we still have to performatively suggest that magats aren't deeply racist crybabies.

Deeply racist privileged toxic crybabies with delusions of grandeur and zero epistemological humility who reflexively wish suffering and trauma on anyone who doesn't 110% agree with their twisted and hateful ideology.

Fascists in the other words. No need to dance around this word. People who voted on trump are either fascists themselves or at very least they don't mind fascism.

[pattylt]

Deeply racist privileged toxic crybabies with delusions of grandeur and zero epistemological humility who reflexively wish suffering and trauma on anyone who doesn't 110% agree with their twisted and hateful ideology.

Fascists in the other words. No need to dance around this word. People who voted on trump are either fascists themselves or at very least they don't mind fascism.

They don’t consider themselves fascist, though.  They’ll deny that label to their last breath.  Instead, they consider themselves patriots…and Christian’s.  Just as they continue to call Dems communists…which they are unable to define, rather than what we actually are…progressives or social democrats. 

It’s fruitless to call them fascists.  At least calling them white nationalists might get their attention but if you call them fascists, they turn a deaf ear because they deny it. Perhaps we’d all be better off trying to not label people since we never agree with each others definitions.

[SaxonX]

Before ruling in sexism and racism, how exactly do you rule out other factors?  Maybe America is ready for a woman president, just not this one.

Or we could rule with what we consistently observed all the blatant sexist and racist attacks on her.

[Szuchow]

Fascists in the other words. No need to dance around this word. People who voted on trump are either fascists themselves or at very least they don't mind fascism.

They don’t consider themselves fascist, though.  They’ll deny that label to their last breath.  Instead, they consider themselves patriots…and Christian’s.  Just as they continue to call Dems communists…which they are unable to define, rather than what we actually are…progressives or social democrats. 

It’s fruitless to call them fascists.  At least calling them white nationalists might get their attention but if you call them fascists, they turn a deaf ear because they deny it. Perhaps we’d all be better off trying to not label people since we never agree with each others definitions.

They might not consider themselves fascists but they are. Their denial will not change the truth. And there is no equivalency between accurate label with which they disagree and product of their diseased imagination - democrats may have many faults but being "communists" ain't one of them. They don't want classless society or withering away of the state.

It's not fruitless and truth shouldn't be hidden because it will offend fascists. There is no reason to talk with them. One simply have to convince people that have something akin to morals and outvote fascists.

[Rhythmcs]

The trouble with trying to outvote the fascists is that mass deportation polls well across party lines. Obama still holds the title, trump came up short in his first term, and biden maintained his policies.

[SYZ]

I don't know if it is wise to just give into the fact that many men believe that the vast majority of female personalities are not suited for the role of President.  Harris's run did achieve progress. She conducted her campaign with class and dignity. She demonstrated the ability to be rational and forthright.  Winning would have been a fat sight better, but trying so well could be a building block for future acceptance

While all you just said is perfectly accurate, that's not what I would call "progress". This had already been done before. It could have been said of Hillary Clinton too. She conducted a fairly classy campaign and demonstrated the ability to be rational and forthright too, but it failed. Sure, I would say Kamala Harris did a better campaign than Hillary Clinton, but both did show without doubt they had the skills necessary to be president...

Well Hillary only "lost" because of two things:  The retrograde
and now obsolete Electoral College, and the "winner-take-all"
primaries—instead of a truly democratic "one-man-one-vote"
process.

In reality—and in any other truly democratic country she
would've won legitimately, and easily, with her 3m additional
ballots over Trump.

That the majority(?) of Americans are apparently happy with
a games show host/convicted felon/multiple bankrupt/racist real
estate agent as their Commander in Chief simply means they've
shat in their own bed, and now have to sleep in it.

The United States is now even more the laughing stock of the       
Western world.     Well done guys!

[Alan V]

I think the deepest prejudice which drove Trump's success was against liberalism in general. The idea that Democrats somehow stole the 2020 presidential election was nothing but hate-mongering. The idea that Republicans are better for the economy is no longer true, if it ever was. The idea that the world must be a zero sum game, so we must look out for Number One, is a fallacy. The idea that inflation was caused by the Democrats rather than by the pandemic is nonsense, since it was a worldwide problem. The idea that illegal immigrants are an invasion force is fear-mongering. The idea that climate change is a hoax is a conspiracy theory. The idea that abortion is mere baby-killing is a deadly over-simplification, and so on.

Such ideas were at the very heart of Trump's demagoguery. He makes the world seem much simpler than it really is, which appeals to Americans' anti-intellectualism and pride.

[Dānu]

I think the deepest prejudice which drove Trump's success was against liberalism in general.  The idea that Democrats somehow stole the 2020 presidential election was nothing but hate-mongering.  The idea that Republicans are better for the economy is no longer true, if it ever was.  The idea that the world must be a zero sum game, so we must look out for Number One, is a fallacy.  The idea that inflation was caused by the Democrats rather than by the pandemic is nonsense, since it was a worldwide problem.  The idea that illegal immigrants are an invasion force is fear-mongering.  The idea that climate change is a hoax is a conspiracy theory.  The idea that abortion is mere baby-killing is a deadly over-simplification, and so on.

Such ideas were at the very heart of Trump's demagoguery.  He makes the world seem much simpler than it really is, which appeals to Americans' anti-intellectualism and pride.

We have a poorly informed and not very smart electorate. Simple messages, even at the expense of accuracy, are the best tool.

[epronovost]

I think the deepest prejudice which drove Trump's success was against liberalism in general.  The idea that Democrats somehow stole the 2020 presidential election was nothing but hate-mongering.  The idea that Republicans are better for the economy is no longer true, if it ever was.  The idea that the world must be a zero sum game, so we must look out for Number One, is a fallacy.  The idea that inflation was caused by the Democrats rather than by the pandemic is nonsense, since it was a worldwide problem.  The idea that illegal immigrants are an invasion force is fear-mongering.  The idea that climate change is a hoax is a conspiracy theory.  The idea that abortion is mere baby-killing is a deadly over-simplification, and so on.

Such ideas were at the very heart of Trump's demagoguery.  He makes the world seem much simpler than it really is, which appeals to Americans' anti-intellectualism and pride.

We have a poorly informed and not very smart electorate.  Simple messages, even at the expense of accuracy, are the best tool.

The electorate is not just poorly informed and educated when it comes down to politics and philosophy but also deeply distrustful of institution and government (often for very good reasons) and, often still, very distrustful and contemptful of each other (often for very poor reasons).

[Alan V]

The electorate is not just poorly informed and educated when it comes down to politics and philosophy but also deeply distrustful of institution and government (often for very good reasons) and, often still, very distrustful and contemptful of each other (often for very poor reasons).

What good reasons?

In my opinion, Republicans have taken paranoia to new heights based on little more than their ignorance about how complex systems work and their prejudices against liberals or intellectuals, who they sneer at as "the deep state" or "the elite."

[epronovost]

What good reasons?

The disastrously handled recrimination and social trauma of the war in Iraq and the Great Recession of 2007 for a start and then the severe disappointment in Obama's meagre result in addressing those issues and the consequences of the Republicans transforming the Federal government into a paralyzed shit show. People don't trust the government to launch "just wars" or in their personal interests because of it. They don't trust the government to come to the aid of a struggling middle-class and suffering working-class, but they do know that the government will always be there to save the bourgeoisie and make sure the rich never suffer any consequences. They don't believe that the system can be meaningfully changed from the inside through it's legal and democratic working. Only brute force works. Yes, it's very unfair, the Republican broke the system and the institution (sometime in a deliberate and planned manner) and they are the one's who reap the reward of presenting themselves as the "party of change" of the anti-establishment and for those elector smart enough to see through the false populism of American fascism; they perceive the Republican party as a good vehicle to smash the civil and democratic liberties of minorities and working-class people that prevents them from realizing their little authoritarian pseudo-libertarian dreams.

[jerry mcmasters]

Before ruling in sexism and racism, how exactly do you rule out other factors?  Maybe America is ready for a woman president, just not this one.

Or we could rule with what we consistently observed all the blatant sexist and racist attacks on her.

Do you believe that Harris lost for any reasons other than sexism and racism, or does your analysis stop there?

[SaxonX]

Or we could rule with what we consistently observed all the blatant sexist and racist attacks on her.

Do you believe that Harris lost for any reasons other than sexism and racism, or does your analysis stop there?

I'm hard pressed to think of one especially considering who her opponent was.

[jerry mcmasters]

Unfortunately, the practical approach would be to nominate a white woman prior to adding more intersectional variety in a Presidential candidacy. A Vietnamese trans male with a disability may not be our next choice.

Ho She Men?

[jerry mcmasters]

Do you believe that Harris lost for any reasons other than sexism and racism, or does your analysis stop there?

I'm hard pressed to think of one especially considering who her opponent was.

Well the Dems better put more thought into it than that or they're going to get spanked every four years til the end of time.