Is Israel VS Islam (war) essentially monogamy VS polygamy?

[Dexta]

I think so. Yes, I've read some Freud. And yes, I know we're essentially animals so sex rules the roost...I prefer monogamy, so "fucking annihilate them Israel!!" Joke. Very poor joke. On the button though? I think so TBH.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Yeah, no.

[epronovost]

WTF is that!?

[Dexta]

WTF is that!?

What is the essential difference between Islam and Judaism? Polygamy VS monogamy.

[mordant]

WTF is that!?

What is the essential difference between Islam and Judaism? Polygamy VS monogamy.

That's a difference, one of many. I would not call it the "essential" difference. I suppose it could be thought of as an "essential difference" between (modern) Jewish and Islamic cultural practice. But not the religions themselves.

Some other differences I can think of offhand include a different holy book; their tendency to conquer rather than assimilate or adapt to host cultures; revering Jesus as a "saint", while he doesn't figure in Judaism whatsoever; revere Mohommad as the last and greatest prophet -- again, not a figure in Judaism at all. Different (though similar) dietary laws; more draconian sanctions for breaking the rules.

So far as I can see, wars between Jewish and Islamic states or tribes involve very old rivalries and resentments, conflicting land claims, and dehumanizing and bigoted views of each other. I have not noticed Israelis mentioning polygamy or monogamy as a factor. Perhaps it could be one of the many ways a Jew could denigrate Muslim morality and character, but considering Judaism's past embrace of polygamy, it's probably not the greatest high horse for them to ride.

[Thumpalumpacus]

I find it hard to swallow the idea that either side would go to war with the other for the sake of ensuring more-equal treatment for women.

[epronovost]

WTF is that!?

What is the essential difference between Islam and Judaism? Polygamy VS monogamy.

I would not put that nearly close to being the biggest difference between Islam and Judaism.

[Rhythmcs]

Polygamy is a part of the shared heritage. Judaism and islam, at least as far as religions go, are more similar than disparate. Christianity is the weirdo in that threesome. You're looking at a trio separated by 600yrs in time or thereabouts. 600bc - 0 - 600ad. There are certainly regional and traditional and ritual differences between the groups, as a matter of different peoples lived experiences...but there are also those some differences within them. You will find in contemporary populations of all three groups strong beliefs about and examples of monogamy and polygamy. For my simple list below you will be able to find counterexamples, too.

But....they all believe in one god and they all believe it's the same god. Judaism posits that there are no more prophets and that god is not and never was a man. Christianity posits that we live in a world of prophecy and prophets, jesus being one of them, and being god. Islam posits that there are no more prophets, theirs being the final prophet, and that god is not and never was a man. Other than that........

If I wanted to understand the I/P conflict in a broad sense, I wouldn't focus on the differences. I'd focus on the similarities. Displaced ethnocentrism, for one. This animates and gives power to the administrators of the conflict on either side. We can allow for the (seemingly apparent) fact that neither hamas nor the isreali government have either group of people's best interests in mind. This is what drives the decisions at the top. This is what creates a perverse set of incentives that inevitably lead to conflict. Where netanyahu has to keep the war going, and hamas can't -ever- stop attacking israel. IMO.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Polygamy is a part of the shared heritage.  Judaism and islam, at least as far as religions go, are more similar than disparate.  Christianity is the weirdo in that threesome.  You're looking at a trio separated by 600yrs in time or thereabouts.  600bc - 0 - 600ad.  There are certainly regional and traditional and ritual differences between the groups, as a matter of different peoples lived experiences...but there are also those some differences within them.  You will find in contemporary populations of all three groups strong beliefs about and examples of monogamy and polygamy.   For my simple list below you will be able to find counterexamples, too.  

But....they all believe in one god and they all believe it's the same god.   Judaism posits that there are no more prophets and that god is not and never was a man.  Christianity posits that we live in a world of prophecy and prophets, jesus being one of them, and being god.  Islam posits that there are no more prophets, theirs being the final prophet, and that god is not and never was a man.  Other than that........

If I wanted to understand the I/P conflict in a broad sense, I wouldn't focus on the differences.  I'd focus on the similarities.  Displaced ethnocentrism, for one.  This animates and gives power to the administrators of the conflict on either side.  We can allow for the (seemingly apparent) fact that neither hamas nor the isreali government have either group of people's best interests in mind.  This is what drives the decisions at the top.  This is what creates a perverse set of incentives that inevitably lead to conflict.  Where netanyahu has to keep the war going, and hamas can't -ever- stop attacking israel.  IMO.

It's not about the wimmenfolk and not about whose god is right. It's about land-use and ethnography. The leadership on both sides already appeal to this, but they dress it up with the fig-leaf of religion in order to justify much more banal concerns like who gets to live where, who has water rights, and so on.

[Rhythmcs]

Pretty much how I see it, yeah. Similar people living in the same place who want the same things and have the same ideas about how to get those things.

[Edible crust]

WTF is that!?

Alcohol and/or drugs.