US Presidential elections 2024

[Inkubus]

Didn't he do well the first time round, he shocked the world. This time round it was all but inevitable. He has been given as he says a powerful mandate. A conclusive cross demographic Coalition proving once again that just relying on the vote of City dwelling latte swilling liberal women doesn't win elections...

He smashed it and she just spunked a couple of billion dollars up the wall on the most limp campaign in history

[SYZ]

As he's falsely and repeatedly claimed, Trump was not
given a "mandate" to govern, as he sees fit, by the people.

The voter turnout for this election numbered 155,547,700
or only 63.5% of the VEP (voter eligible population).

Trump won 50.1% of the popular vote, and Harris won
48.3% of the popular vote.  [17/11/24]

This equals 2,670,840 votes in favour of Trump, which
in turn equals approximately 5.82% of eligible voters who
lodged a ballot.

There was a 244,000,000 VEP this year, so I can't really see a
genuine "mandate" for the Trump administration.  And the
definition of that term I'd cite is "a directive that the voters are
supposed to have given the government at the last election to
enact and implement certain specific proposals that it enunciated
during the election campaign".


(My figures are rounded)

[pattylt]

Trump could have won by one vote and he’d claim he has a mandate of the people. Hell, he lost by millions of votes last time and claimed he won because he garnered more votes than his win in 2016.

[Szuchow]

As he's falsely and repeatedly claimed, Trump was not
given a "mandate" to govern, as he sees fit, by the people.

The voter turnout for this election numbered 155,547,700
or only 63.5% of the VEP (voter eligible population).

Trump won 50.1% of the popular vote, and Harris won
48.3% of the popular vote.  [17/11/24]

This equals 2,670,840 votes in favour of Trump, which
in turn equals approximately 5.82% of eligible voters who
lodged a ballot.

There was a 244,000,000 VEP this year, so I can't really see a
genuine "mandate" for the Trump administration.  And the
definition of that term I'd cite is "a directive that the voters are
supposed to have given the government at the last election to
enact and implement certain specific proposals that it enunciated
during the election campaign".


(My figures are rounded)

Every official that wins popular election is given mandate by populace. Issue is that trump been given mandate to govern according to law and not as he sees fit.

[SYZ]

And we all know by now that Trump is more than
happy to break any or all laws as he personally
sees fit.

Financial fraud?  Yes.  Sexual assault laws?  Yes.
Perjury?  Yes.  Election subversion?  Yes.

And who can forget his famous  "I could stand in
the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody,
and I wouldn't lose any voters... It's, like, incredible."

So... Americans can expect a slew of lies from this
man and his sycophants, aided and abetted by the
corrupt SCOTUS during the next four years.

[mordant]

Trump could have won by one vote and he’d claim he has a mandate of the people.  Hell, he lost by millions of votes last time and claimed he won because he garnered more votes than his win in 2016.

I will say that I have noticed a disturbing tendency of some on the left to be skeptical that the vote was not "rigged" now that we've lost. We were happy to trumpet the integrity of the process and the rarity of voter fraud until we have a motivation to look everywhere for it, I guess.

Even my wife was taken in by something written by a poll worker with a theory about how it could have happened. But the reality is that this is almost on the scale of moon-landing denialism: in order for it to work at scale, it would require a conspiracy so vast that it could not be concealed because it would involve thousands if not tens of thousands of co-conspirators. And as a practical matter if something that coherent had been plotted and successfully kept secret AND executed by the bunch of goons, imbeciles and ne'r-do-wells who shilled for Trump, then there's no hope of another non-rigged election ever, basically.

No, we lost because people voted based on feelings and ignorance of the issues and how the process works, and because the Democrats continued their losing strategy of doing the bare minimum to keep their constituencies from bolting and usually underestimating even that. We screwed the pooch, liberals and democrats alike, each in their own ways.

[pattylt]

I hope you weren’t suggesting that I was claiming voter fraud? No, I accept the numbers and see no reason to doubt them. Yes, I’ve heard others suggesting some type of fraud but, it seemed to be based on perceptions that larger numbers than ever voted so why doesn’t it add up? It doesn’t add up because voters didn’t turn out in larger numbers, plain and simple.

Nope, Americans voted for Trump in larger numbers and especially in swing states to get both the popular vote and the EC….unlike 2016.

And the Trump voters certainly think they got a mandate for whatever reason they voted for him…immigration deportations, women learning their place, DEI promotions instead of their own superior talents or whatever other fevered dream reason they voted for the man. With this assumed mandate, it’ll likely take many years and possibly a few generations to shove these “mandates” back into the closet. Trump supporters feel they won everything…and they did.

[mordant]

I hope you weren’t suggesting that I was claiming voter fraud?

No -- just my usual free association and making a connection suggested by your post. I know you're too smart for that nonsense.

[pattylt]

I hope you weren’t suggesting that I was claiming voter fraud?

No -- just my usual free association and making a connection suggested by your post. I know you're too smart for that nonsense.

Just checking! (wink)

BTW, I’ve don’t that a few times in my life, too.  A post triggers something I want to say and it sounds like I’m accusing the poster of something I didn’t realize!  ❤️