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#51

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I occasionally find references to something my ancestors did and can find the same approach to problems in myself. Even if I am gone and forgotten there will be some echo of me in my descendants.
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#52

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No such thing as nothingness . It's just a human concept
 All I know is that I know nothing
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#53

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There is (absolutely) nothing arriving into or being processed in a consciousness which no longer exists, or does not exist.
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#54

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I've tried to take life's offramp several times, but for whatever reason, I kept missing my exit.
Mountain-high though the difficulties appear, terrible and gloomy though all things seem, they are but Mâyâ.
Fear not — it is banished. Crush it, and it vanishes. Stamp upon it, and it dies.


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#55

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Would you choose nothingness over varying levels of delirium?
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#56

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(10-05-2021, 11:03 PM)Antonio Wrote: No such thing as nothingness . It's just a human concept

Zero, as a concept... Death without an afterlife... Squashed ant... Self-awareness of a virus...
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#57

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I posted this at another site and some of you may recognize it. One of you even kudosed it. Smile

I don't think the 70-80 years that most of can reasonably expect is anywhere near enough, but it's certainly better than forever, and here's why:


"Holy fuck, who would want to live forever?!?

Let's say the christers are right. There is a god, he judges us all and gives us the eternity we deserve.

Case 1, getting into heaven:
Ok, so, I passed the test. This is awesome. The christers sure were wrong about the big guy. Sure, I have to do the worship thing every day to the god I never believed in, but there's plenty of time to do all the other stuff there is to do. Right?
100 years later - Wow. still pretty frickin' cool. I've managed to do all the things I ever even thought of putting on my bucket lists but there's still lots to do.
1,000 years later - Ok. this is still good. Got kinda bored with some of the stuff but there so much I can still do.
1,000,000 years later - Well, I guess we could go do that again. It's better than doing the other again.
1,000,000,000 years later - Holy hell I'm bored. There's absolutely nothing left to do I haven't done 100,000 times already.
1,000,000,000,000 years later - Kill me. Kill me now.
1,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *sobbing uncontrollably*
1,000,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *laughing maniacally*
1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *persistent vegetative state*

Guess what, I'm still right at the start of the infinity timeline. *shudders*

Case 2, going to hell:
Well shit, I was wrong. There really is a god and he's just as big a vindictive fuckwad as the christers always said. This sucks.
100 years later - Still sucks
1,000 years later - Still sucks.
1,000,000 years later - Sucks even worse
1,000,000,000 years later - Sucks like a well practiced whore.
1,000,000,000,000 years later - Kill me. Kill me now.
1,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *sobbing uncontrollably*
1,000,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *laughing maniacally*
1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *persistent vegetative state*

Guess what, I'm still right at the start of the infinity timeline. *shudders*

Case 3 (optional), Purgatory:
Well. I guess I was wrong. Christers were right but I guess he's not so bad. At least I'm not roasting in hell.
100 years later - Boring...
1,000 years later - Still Boring.
1,000,000 years later - Really fucking boring.
1,000,000,000 years later - Holy hell, I wish I could have gone to hell instead..
1,000,000,000,000 years later - Kill me. Kill me now.
1,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *sobbing uncontrollably*
1,000,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *laughing maniacally*
1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *persistent vegetative state*

Guess what, I'm still right at the start of the infinity timeline. *shudders*

Case 4 (in this case the christers are wrong), our consciousness is freed from the mortal shackles but continues forever:
Awesome. Not only were the christers wrong, but I really get to rub their noses in it. Fuck yeah, this is gonna be AWESOME!!!
100 years later - Wow. still pretty frickin' cool. I've managed to do all the things I ever even thought of putting on my bucket lists but there's still lots to do.
1,000 years later - Ok. this is still good. Got kinda bored with some of the stuff but there so much I can still do.
1,000,000 years later - Well, I guess we could go do that again. It's better than doing the other again.
1,000,000,000 years later - Holy hell I'm bored. There's absolutely nothing left to do I haven't done 100,000 times already.
1,000,000,000,000 years later - Kill me. Kill me now.
1,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *sobbing uncontrollably*
1,000,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *laughing maniacally*
1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *persistent vegetative state*

Guess what, I'm still right at the start of the infinity timeline. *shudders*"

Why would anyone want any of those outcomes? I wouldn't wish any heaven, hell, or any other unending eternity on my worst enemy, let alone my friends and loved ones.

While I fear the act of dying, I have no fear of being dead. There are far worse ideas than the idea of winking out like a flame in the wind.
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#58

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(10-10-2021, 07:18 PM)TheGentlemanBastard Wrote: I posted this at another site and some of you may recognize it. One of you even kudosed it. Smile

I don't think the 70-80 years that most of can reasonably expect is anywhere near enough, but it's certainly better than forever, and here's why:


"Holy fuck, who would want to live forever?!?

Let's say the christers are right. There is a god, he judges us all and gives us the eternity we deserve.

Case 1, getting into heaven:
Ok, so, I passed the test. This is awesome. The christers sure were wrong about the big guy. Sure, I have to do the worship thing every day to the god I never believed in, but there's plenty of time to do all the other stuff there is to do. Right?
100 years later - Wow. still pretty frickin' cool. I've managed to do all the things I ever even thought of putting on my bucket lists but there's still lots to do.
1,000 years later - Ok. this is still good. Got kinda bored with some of the stuff but there so much I can still do.
1,000,000 years later - Well, I guess we could go do that again. It's better than doing the other again.
1,000,000,000 years later - Holy hell I'm bored. There's absolutely nothing left to do I haven't done 100,000 times already.
1,000,000,000,000 years later - Kill me. Kill me now.
1,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *sobbing uncontrollably*
1,000,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *laughing maniacally*
1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *persistent vegetative state*

Guess what, I'm still right at the start of the infinity timeline. *shudders*

Case 2, going to hell:
Well shit, I was wrong. There really is a god and he's just as big a vindictive fuckwad as the christers always said. This sucks.
100 years later - Still sucks
1,000 years later - Still sucks.
1,000,000 years later - Sucks even worse
1,000,000,000 years later - Sucks like a well practiced whore.
1,000,000,000,000 years later - Kill me. Kill me now.
1,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *sobbing uncontrollably*
1,000,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *laughing maniacally*
1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *persistent vegetative state*

Guess what, I'm still right at the start of the infinity timeline. *shudders*

Case 3 (optional), Purgatory:
Well. I guess I was wrong. Christers were right but I guess he's not so bad. At least I'm not roasting in hell.
100 years later - Boring...
1,000 years later - Still Boring.
1,000,000 years later - Really fucking boring.
1,000,000,000 years later - Holy hell, I wish I could have gone to hell instead..
1,000,000,000,000 years later - Kill me. Kill me now.
1,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *sobbing uncontrollably*
1,000,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *laughing maniacally*
1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *persistent vegetative state*

Guess what, I'm still right at the start of the infinity timeline. *shudders*

Case 4 (in this case the christers are wrong), our consciousness is freed from the mortal shackles but continues forever:
Awesome. Not only were the christers wrong, but I really get to rub their noses in it. Fuck yeah, this is gonna be AWESOME!!!
100 years later - Wow. still pretty frickin' cool. I've managed to do all the things I ever even thought of putting on my bucket lists but there's still lots to do.
1,000 years later - Ok. this is still good. Got kinda bored with some of the stuff but there so much I can still do.
1,000,000 years later - Well, I guess we could go do that again. It's better than doing the other again.
1,000,000,000 years later - Holy hell I'm bored. There's absolutely nothing left to do I haven't done 100,000 times already.
1,000,000,000,000 years later - Kill me. Kill me now.
1,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *sobbing uncontrollably*
1,000,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *laughing maniacally*
1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *persistent vegetative state*

Guess what, I'm still right at the start of the infinity timeline. *shudders*"

Why would anyone want any of those outcomes? I wouldn't wish any heaven, hell, or any other unending eternity on my worst enemy, let alone my friends and loved ones.

While I fear the act of dying, I have no fear of being dead. There are far worse ideas than the idea of winking out like a flame in the wind.

Now try to imagine exactly how fucking bored any eternal god must be. He might inspire a nuclear war or kick off a supervolcano just to make the day interesting.
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#59

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(10-10-2021, 09:46 PM)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(10-10-2021, 07:18 PM)TheGentlemanBastard Wrote: I posted this at another site and some of you may recognize it. One of you even kudosed it. Smile

I don't think the 70-80 years that most of can reasonably expect is anywhere near enough, but it's certainly better than forever, and here's why:


"Holy fuck, who would want to live forever?!?

Let's say the christers are right. There is a god, he judges us all and gives us the eternity we deserve.

Case 1, getting into heaven:
Ok, so, I passed the test. This is awesome. The christers sure were wrong about the big guy. Sure, I have to do the worship thing every day to the god I never believed in, but there's plenty of time to do all the other stuff there is to do. Right?
100 years later - Wow. still pretty frickin' cool. I've managed to do all the things I ever even thought of putting on my bucket lists but there's still lots to do.
1,000 years later - Ok. this is still good. Got kinda bored with some of the stuff but there so much I can still do.
1,000,000 years later - Well, I guess we could go do that again. It's better than doing the other again.
1,000,000,000 years later - Holy hell I'm bored. There's absolutely nothing left to do I haven't done 100,000 times already.
1,000,000,000,000 years later - Kill me. Kill me now.
1,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *sobbing uncontrollably*
1,000,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *laughing maniacally*
1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *persistent vegetative state*

Guess what, I'm still right at the start of the infinity timeline. *shudders*

Case 2, going to hell:
Well shit, I was wrong. There really is a god and he's just as big a vindictive fuckwad as the christers always said. This sucks.
100 years later - Still sucks
1,000 years later - Still sucks.
1,000,000 years later - Sucks even worse
1,000,000,000 years later - Sucks like a well practiced whore.
1,000,000,000,000 years later - Kill me. Kill me now.
1,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *sobbing uncontrollably*
1,000,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *laughing maniacally*
1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *persistent vegetative state*

Guess what, I'm still right at the start of the infinity timeline. *shudders*

Case 3 (optional), Purgatory:
Well. I guess I was wrong. Christers were right but I guess he's not so bad. At least I'm not roasting in hell.
100 years later - Boring...
1,000 years later - Still Boring.
1,000,000 years later - Really fucking boring.
1,000,000,000 years later - Holy hell, I wish I could have gone to hell instead..
1,000,000,000,000 years later - Kill me. Kill me now.
1,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *sobbing uncontrollably*
1,000,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *laughing maniacally*
1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *persistent vegetative state*

Guess what, I'm still right at the start of the infinity timeline. *shudders*

Case 4 (in this case the christers are wrong), our consciousness is freed from the mortal shackles but continues forever:
Awesome. Not only were the christers wrong, but I really get to rub their noses in it. Fuck yeah, this is gonna be AWESOME!!!
100 years later - Wow. still pretty frickin' cool. I've managed to do all the things I ever even thought of putting on my bucket lists but there's still lots to do.
1,000 years later - Ok. this is still good. Got kinda bored with some of the stuff but there so much I can still do.
1,000,000 years later - Well, I guess we could go do that again. It's better than doing the other again.
1,000,000,000 years later - Holy hell I'm bored. There's absolutely nothing left to do I haven't done 100,000 times already.
1,000,000,000,000 years later - Kill me. Kill me now.
1,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *sobbing uncontrollably*
1,000,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *laughing maniacally*
1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *persistent vegetative state*

Guess what, I'm still right at the start of the infinity timeline. *shudders*"

Why would anyone want any of those outcomes? I wouldn't wish any heaven, hell, or any other unending eternity on my worst enemy, let alone my friends and loved ones.

While I fear the act of dying, I have no fear of being dead. There are far worse ideas than the idea of winking out like a flame in the wind.

Now try to imagine exactly how fucking bored any eternal god must be. He might inspire a nuclear war or kick off a supervolcano just to make the day interesting.

What I've always wondered is what a god would've been doing for an eternity before he created humans. Was he just doing nothing? Then one "day", "well, guess I'll create humans now!"
“For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.” -Carl Sagan.
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#60

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(10-10-2021, 10:46 PM)GenesisNemesis Wrote:
(10-10-2021, 09:46 PM)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Now try to imagine exactly how fucking bored any eternal god must be. He might inspire a nuclear war or kick off a supervolcano just to make the day interesting.

What I've always wondered is what a god would've been doing for an eternity before he created humans. Was he just doing nothing? Then one "day", "well, guess I'll create humans now!"

Right -- it got bored one day. I guess even killing your son would be interesting if you can resurrect him by Sunday.

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#61

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God's omnipotent. He's supposed to be able to entertain himself at all times. Skip-Bo? Parcheesi? Solitaire? Vonnegut? C'mon, God Man!
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#62

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(10-11-2021, 01:53 AM)c172 Wrote: God's omnipotent. He's supposed to be able to entertain himself at all times. Skip-Bo? Parcheesi? Solitaire? Vonnegut? C'mon, God Man!

Who's gonna beat you?
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#63

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(10-11-2021, 01:47 AM)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Right -- it got bored one day. I guess even killing your son would be interesting if you can resurrect him by Sunday.

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Well we know the almighty is a fickle sort of character so one day just for shiggles he may decide to swap the populations. Those in hell are now in heaven as happy as fuck gorging on prawn cocktails, canapes and supping Châteauneuf-du-Pape. Meanwhile the heaven bods are now floating round on a lake of burning sulfur being harpooned by demons.*

How long before he swaps them back? Maybe a trillion years or maybe ten minutes. Yes it would a cunts trick alright but then this is the god of the bible we're talking about.

*Right nasty bastards those demons.

Quote:We crawled like snakes. By the time the shade of Tweed had stopped screaming, we were opposite the bridge. I looked back once and had to close my eyes. The demons had opened him up and spread him out like a frog in biology class; but unlike the frog, he was still trying to get away.

Niven-Pournelle. Inferno.
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(10-11-2021, 05:31 AM)Inkubus Wrote: Well we know the almighty is a fickle sort of character so one day just for shiggles he may decide to swap the populations.

Right -- what's it to him? A kajillion years here, a kajillion people there, who's counting when he's bored on any given Sunday?
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#65

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(10-10-2021, 09:46 PM)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(10-10-2021, 07:18 PM)TheGentlemanBastard Wrote: I posted this at another site and some of you may recognize it. One of you even kudosed it. Smile

I don't think the 70-80 years that most of can reasonably expect is anywhere near enough, but it's certainly better than forever, and here's why:


"Holy fuck, who would want to live forever?!?

Let's say the christers are right. There is a god, he judges us all and gives us the eternity we deserve.

Case 1, getting into heaven:
Ok, so, I passed the test. This is awesome. The christers sure were wrong about the big guy. Sure, I have to do the worship thing every day to the god I never believed in, but there's plenty of time to do all the other stuff there is to do. Right?
100 years later - Wow. still pretty frickin' cool. I've managed to do all the things I ever even thought of putting on my bucket lists but there's still lots to do.
1,000 years later - Ok. this is still good. Got kinda bored with some of the stuff but there so much I can still do.
1,000,000 years later - Well, I guess we could go do that again. It's better than doing the other again.
1,000,000,000 years later - Holy hell I'm bored. There's absolutely nothing left to do I haven't done 100,000 times already.
1,000,000,000,000 years later - Kill me. Kill me now.
1,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *sobbing uncontrollably*
1,000,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *laughing maniacally*
1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *persistent vegetative state*

Guess what, I'm still right at the start of the infinity timeline. *shudders*

Case 2, going to hell:
Well shit, I was wrong. There really is a god and he's just as big a vindictive fuckwad as the christers always said. This sucks.
100 years later - Still sucks
1,000 years later - Still sucks.
1,000,000 years later - Sucks even worse
1,000,000,000 years later - Sucks like a well practiced whore.
1,000,000,000,000 years later - Kill me. Kill me now.
1,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *sobbing uncontrollably*
1,000,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *laughing maniacally*
1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *persistent vegetative state*

Guess what, I'm still right at the start of the infinity timeline. *shudders*

Case 3 (optional), Purgatory:
Well. I guess I was wrong. Christers were right but I guess he's not so bad. At least I'm not roasting in hell.
100 years later - Boring...
1,000 years later - Still Boring.
1,000,000 years later - Really fucking boring.
1,000,000,000 years later - Holy hell, I wish I could have gone to hell instead..
1,000,000,000,000 years later - Kill me. Kill me now.
1,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *sobbing uncontrollably*
1,000,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *laughing maniacally*
1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *persistent vegetative state*

Guess what, I'm still right at the start of the infinity timeline. *shudders*

Case 4 (in this case the christers are wrong), our consciousness is freed from the mortal shackles but continues forever:
Awesome. Not only were the christers wrong, but I really get to rub their noses in it. Fuck yeah, this is gonna be AWESOME!!!
100 years later - Wow. still pretty frickin' cool. I've managed to do all the things I ever even thought of putting on my bucket lists but there's still lots to do.
1,000 years later - Ok. this is still good. Got kinda bored with some of the stuff but there so much I can still do.
1,000,000 years later - Well, I guess we could go do that again. It's better than doing the other again.
1,000,000,000 years later - Holy hell I'm bored. There's absolutely nothing left to do I haven't done 100,000 times already.
1,000,000,000,000 years later - Kill me. Kill me now.
1,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *sobbing uncontrollably*
1,000,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *laughing maniacally*
1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years later - *persistent vegetative state*

Guess what, I'm still right at the start of the infinity timeline. *shudders*"

Why would anyone want any of those outcomes? I wouldn't wish any heaven, hell, or any other unending eternity on my worst enemy, let alone my friends and loved ones.

While I fear the act of dying, I have no fear of being dead. There are far worse ideas than the idea of winking out like a flame in the wind.

Now try to imagine exactly how fucking bored any eternal god must be. He might inspire a nuclear war or kick off a supervolcano just to make the day interesting.

Indeed. What I find truly curious is that, according to all the assorted fruits, nuts and flakes that fill the religious cereal bowls, gawd had an eternity to plan our world/universe. How is it that an omniscient, omnipotent being could have an eternity to build a world/universe and manage to do such a piss-poor job?!?
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#66

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Imagines a Mel Brooks character yelling at god : " is this really the BEST that you could do?"
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(10-05-2021, 01:27 PM)Mr Greene Wrote: I occasionally find references to something my ancestors did and can find the same approach to problems in myself. Even if I am gone and forgotten there will be some echo of me in my descendants.

https://www.cdc.gov/genomics/disease/epigenetics.htm
"Although most of these multigenerational epigenetic traits are gradually lost over several generations, the possibility remains that multigenerational epigenetics could be another aspect to evolution and adaptation. As mentioned above, some define epigenetics as heritable."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigenetics

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(10-15-2021, 06:22 PM)skyking Wrote: Imagines a Mel Brooks character yelling at god : " is this really the BEST that you could do?"

George Carlin in one of his routines: "If this is the best he can do, I'm not impressed."
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