WandaVision

[OakTree500]

Having only watched the trailer for WandaVision, I can tell it's definitely
not my cup of tea.  That's possibly unfair, but I checked with IMDb and
during January, it got 290 user reviews rating it 1/10, versus only 318
reviews rating it 10/10.     This split says it all.

Most positive reviews seem to be from MCU fanbois.    

It has an 8.0 average. That's high for any genre.  Looking at the extremes is hardly going to give an accurate picture of anything.

Worth mentioning that with "fanbois" there also comes the "I HATE MCU" brigade - normally because they hate the fanbois to begin with. Either way it's standard toxic fandom stuff [like when Captain Marvel got a wave of negative reviews.....because there was a women in the lead role. The "go work, go broke" assholes were in force that day.].

I've shyed away from certain levels of reviews and just watched things for myself instead.

[OakTree500]

Not long watched this weeks: INTERESTING STUFF!

Also: there is a mid-credits section this week.

[Phaedrus]

Somehow I missed the Halloween episode. Watching it now.

No idea what the past influence is for this episode, however. I'm guessing it's a 90s show, but I can't place it.

Had to look it up. Malcolm in the Middle, never really watched that show so I didn't catch the reference. But that's a 2000 show. Where did the 90s go?

[Phaedrus]

Here's a reference guide to the years and shows referenced on Wandavision.

Apparently, the 90s were covered in episode five in reference to Full House, which I didn't get.

[Phaedrus]

Episode seven, let's see if I can figure it out without looking at the reference guide.

First guess, Modern Family. I figured I might be wrong, checked the guide, and it hasn't been updated.

*sigh*

[Phaedrus]

LOL, that Nexus medicine commercial. Funniest one yet.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

If you have to know TV culture to enjoy the show I'm outta here.

[Phaedrus]

If you have to know TV culture to enjoy the show I'm outta here.

You don't have to know the culture to enjoy the show. It's just a fun little extra.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Ah, so desu. Domo arigato.

[Phaedrus]

Not certain what is going on with Monica.......but,

At this point, as Vision becomes more aware of what is happening, it is also becoming apparent that he will be the only one who can convince Wanda to stop what she's doing. A romance for the ages, where she must accept a reality without him.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

At this point, as Vision becomes more aware of what is happening, it is also becoming apparent that he will be the only one who can convince Wanda to stop what she's doing. A romance for the ages, where she must accept a reality without him.

Perhaps Vision's Spirit could come back if he has the Opportunity. It would require Perseverance and Ingenuity, however.

[Phaedrus]

What, not the only magical being?

Twist!

It's been Agatha all along.

Don't miss that mid-credit scene.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I'm clueless now.

[Phaedrus]

I'm clueless now.

Guess you need to watch the show.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Like I said, I'd be clueless, confused and unwilling to continue. If somebody comes up with a viewer's guide maybe, but I have little patience with straining at TV these days. "Ridiculousness" matches my attention span nicely. And I get to mutter "What fools these mortals be" a lot.

[Phaedrus]

With episode seven, I had already gotten the Modern Family reference.

According to this link, the episode also included references from The Office and Parks and Recreation, neither of which I have ever seen.

[OakTree500]

Last weeks episode was more bonkers stuff - explains [sort of] why it's all TV shows [kind of like a 'safe space' from her childhood] and giving a bit more backstory on how she came to be in the place she is.

Post credits scene this week was a whole lot of "whaaaat" as well.

[Cavebear]

The concept of the series seems vaguely disturbing. I got the impression from the ad that Vision was sort of forced into a Wanda dreamworld (though he of all Marvel characters might be the last to know). I don't stream or netflix, so correct me if I'm wrong... I AM curious.

[OakTree500]

The concept of the series seems vaguely disturbing.  I got the impression from the ad that Vision was sort of forced into a Wanda dreamworld (though he of all Marvel characters might be the last to know).  I don't stream or netflix, so correct me if I'm wrong...  I AM curious.

Thats what it seemed like, however.....

From this weeks episode:

Show ContentSpoiler:

Vision died during the events of infinity, and as revealed in the series was taken to SWORD headquarters for decommissioning as he was deemed as "the most powerful weapon in existence". Wanda, being distraught, drove to the town and building plot where it looked like her/Vision would start a new life together. She exploded with sadness/rage causing this "hex" to manifest, which also gave rise to The Vision as we see him - which means this isn't really The Vision....he is part of the hex as well. All part of her dream world.

In a post credits sequence we saw that SWORD have taken the remnants of Vision and rebuilt him, presumably as some sort of controlled weapon they will be sending in to deal with Wanda moving forward.

[Cavebear]

The concept of the series seems vaguely disturbing.  I got the impression from the ad that Vision was sort of forced into a Wanda dreamworld (though he of all Marvel characters might be the last to know).  I don't stream or netflix, so correct me if I'm wrong...  I AM curious.

Thats what it seemed like, however.....

From this weeks episode:

Show ContentSpoiler:

Vision died during the events of infinity, and as revealed in the series was taken to SWORD headquarters for decommissioning as he was deemed as "the most powerful weapon in existence". Wanda, being distraught, drove to the town and building plot where it looked like her/Vision would start a new life together. She exploded with sadness/rage causing this "hex" to manifest, which also gave rise to The Vision as we see him - which means this isn't really The Vision....he is part of the hex as well. All part of her dream world.

In a post credits sequence we saw that SWORD have taken the remnants of Vision and rebuilt him, presumably as some sort of controlled weapon they will be sending in to deal with Wanda moving forward.

I don't know SWORD. Do you mean SHIELD? Like Nick Fury?

[OakTree500]

The concept of the series seems vaguely disturbing.  I got the impression from the ad that Vision was sort of forced into a Wanda dreamworld (though he of all Marvel characters might be the last to know).  I don't stream or netflix, so correct me if I'm wrong...  I AM curious.

Thats what it seemed like, however.....

From this weeks episode:

Show ContentSpoiler:

Vision died during the events of infinity, and as revealed in the series was taken to SWORD headquarters for decommissioning as he was deemed as "the most powerful weapon in existence". Wanda, being distraught, drove to the town and building plot where it looked like her/Vision would start a new life together. She exploded with sadness/rage causing this "hex" to manifest, which also gave rise to The Vision as we see him - which means this isn't really The Vision....he is part of the hex as well. All part of her dream world.

In a post credits sequence we saw that SWORD have taken the remnants of Vision and rebuilt him, presumably as some sort of controlled weapon they will be sending in to deal with Wanda moving forward.

I don't know SWORD.  Do you mean SHIELD?   Like Nick Fury?

It's a different organization of a similar "thing" - showed up in this series

[Aroura]

I'm a bit confused about Vision.

Up until last episode, it seems he has a Will separate from Wanda. Unlike the other inhabitants, who are all (except Agatha) under Wanda's control.
Vision has his own thoughts, his own ideas, and even tried to escape the hex! But it isn't vision in his old body/corpse. That has now been made abundantly clear. He's not a recreation of Vision in any actual past incarnation, either. He doesn't know what an Avenger is. But he's more than just a dream or figment. So, is this like Elsa? Did she build a new Vision, based on her memories, and just give him actual life??

Related question: Did she also just manifest life for her children, including giving them their own Will?

I think these are somewhat important question, as we are clearly headed for a Wanda's Vision vs Shield Vision showdown of some sort. Also, being able to spontaneously create fully formed and autonomous life is a big deal!

[OakTree500]

I'm a bit confused about Vision.

Up until last episode, it seems he has a Will separate from Wanda. Unlike the other inhabitants, who are all (except Agatha) under Wanda's control.
Vision has his own thoughts, his own ideas, and even tried to escape the hex!  But it isn't vision in his old body/corpse.  That has now been made abundantly clear.  He's not a recreation of Vision in any actual past incarnation, either.  He doesn't know what an Avenger is. But he's more than just a dream or figment.  So, is this like Elsa?  Did she build a new Vision, based on her memories, and just give him actual life??  

Related question: Did she also just manifest life for her children, including giving them their own Will?

I think these are somewhat important question, as we are clearly headed for a Wanda's Vision vs Shield Vision showdown of some sort.  Also, being able to spontaneously create fully formed and autonomous life is a big deal!

Re Wanda creating vision - 

It could be argued that with Wanda's powers coming from [or at least being amplified by] an infinity stone, And Vision partly coming from the same Stone as well - maybe the "sentient" part of wanda created vision is coming from her power generally, which is derived from the stones powers also? [I mean that's a long winded shot at explaining it but yeah].

Personally, i think it's a case of: she can't fully control the magic she has. So she created vision in this perfect world, but that means he is "just like she remembered" which means: sentient/asking questions/a good person etc - and it's reflected in the 'dream world' version of Vision as well. As for the kids - I have no idea to be honest. Potentially more of the same?