I'm a lot happier today. The farming sector is happy with the plan, the opposition party (Labor) is happy as well. It's not as bad at all as I first thought, 15 years is a fucking long time - but really after 10 years we have all the access our cattle and sheep farmers are going to use anyway - it's not like we're ever going to supply 100% of the UK's red meat.
A massive win for Australia AND the UK really. This is a precedent, and as Boris mentioned in the video it's also an important step towards the UK's accession to the CPTPP.
The major influence will be the UK helping us to set the terms of global trade - and taking that power out of the hands of the likes of the EU and China. I.e. diminishing what they call the “Beijing effect” and the “Brussels effect”. It's incredibly important, and while it may not represent a massive amount of trade it gets us closer to that goal.
Most of the land isn't irrigated and isn't going to be, so that's a kind of poor comparison. But sure on the size - again that's not our fault, that's the UK's fault and the EU's fault for subsidising farming and encouraging unsustainable unprofitable farming practises. It's up to the UK now if they want to start reversing that, recombining farm lands that have been divided up into unprofitable plots that the UK government foolishly subsidises. You won't get any sympathy from Aussies for how you guys farm, we think it's completely stupid.
A massive win for Australia AND the UK really. This is a precedent, and as Boris mentioned in the video it's also an important step towards the UK's accession to the CPTPP.
(06-15-2021, 05:26 PM)Deesse23 Wrote: Jeez, i wonder how and why a trade deal with a country literally on the other side of the globe and with less than half the population wont have a ginormous influence on the UKs trade.
The major influence will be the UK helping us to set the terms of global trade - and taking that power out of the hands of the likes of the EU and China. I.e. diminishing what they call the “Beijing effect” and the “Brussels effect”. It's incredibly important, and while it may not represent a massive amount of trade it gets us closer to that goal.
(06-16-2021, 12:36 AM)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I get that irrigation is going to be a big expense in Australia, but by "economy of size" I was speaking more about the herd-size. I'm pretty sure the average Aussie herdsman holds many more head of grazing livestock than does his British counterpart. That can operate to reduce costs per head.
Most of the land isn't irrigated and isn't going to be, so that's a kind of poor comparison. But sure on the size - again that's not our fault, that's the UK's fault and the EU's fault for subsidising farming and encouraging unsustainable unprofitable farming practises. It's up to the UK now if they want to start reversing that, recombining farm lands that have been divided up into unprofitable plots that the UK government foolishly subsidises. You won't get any sympathy from Aussies for how you guys farm, we think it's completely stupid.
