The Brexit Thread (topical thread)

[Marozz]

I reckon there will be a vote of no confidence in Theresa May. That should be interesting. I cant see this deal going through. If it doesn't there are only two options left. A no deal brexit or a second referendum.

Any idea how a second referendum would be received by the EU?

Until the UK actually leaves the EU the article 50 letter can be withdrawn i.e the EU treaty allows the UK to withdraw its notification of Brexit.If it came to a second referendum there is little doubt that all 27 member states would agree to extend the article 50 timetable.

[Yonadav]

I reckon there will be a vote of no confidence in Theresa May. That should be interesting. I cant see this deal going through. If it doesn't there are only two options left. A no deal brexit or a second referendum.

Any idea how a second referendum would be received by the EU?

Until the UK actually leaves the EU the article 50 letter can be withdrawn i.e the EU treaty allows the UK to withdraw its notification of Brexit.If it came to a second referendum there is little doubt that all 27 member states would agree to extend the article 50 timetable.

OK, that's good. I asked because I read something somewhere, and I can't remember where. It concerned the possibility of the UK changing its mind, and it said that the EU would be likely to impose some sort of consequence for that.  But that was probably in a situation where the UK had completed its exit.

[Thumpalumpacus]

I don't know so much about the issues at hand outside the hard border in Ireland and the corporate flight from the UK, but I sure hope the UK ends up redeciding against Brexit. It doesn't seem to be much good for anyone.

[abaris]

It's time for rUK to become a vassal state and Scotland to leave and re-join the EU.

Which wouldn't happen overnight. It could take up to a decade, even if a possible second scotish referendum ends in favor of leaving the UK.

[Mathilda]

It's time for rUK to become a vassal state and Scotland to leave and re-join the EU.

Which wouldn't happen overnight. It could take up to a decade, even if a possible second scotish referendum ends in favor of leaving the UK.

Several high ranking officials in the EU have said that Scotland could be fast tracked in recognition that we actually voted to remain by a significant margin but are being taken out against our will. Also we have our own legal system. It's not likely that it would take as long as for an entirely new country that has to spend time and effort making sure it complies with EU law because at the moment we already do.

[Paleophyte]

I reckon there will be a vote of no confidence in Theresa May. That should be interesting. I cant see this deal going through. If it doesn't there are only two options left. A no deal brexit or a second referendum.

Or option three, a government that treats the first referendum as non-binding, which it was, and simply cancels Brexit. It's probably the simplest and cleanest option but would require a politician with a spine.

I'm loving the slogan "Brexit means Brexit!" It's a beautifully meaningless little tautology highlighted by the fact that Brexit doesn't seem to mean the same thing to any two people and thus means nothing whatsoever.

[abaris]

Several high ranking officials in the EU have said that Scotland could be fast tracked in recognition that we actually voted to remain by a significant margin but are being taken out against our will. Also we have our own legal system. It's not likely that it would take as long as for an entirely new country that has to spend time and effort making sure it complies with EU law because at the moment we already do.

We're talking about a whole new country, if this were to happen. Regardless of what high ranking EU officials say, I can't imagine all the member states being in agreement with fast tracking Scotland. The best I could think of, would be special arrangements to associate the country and taking it from there to a full membership in the future.

But that's a lot of ifs. First, noone knows, if parliament agrees to a new referendum, if that ends up in favor of leaving the UK and how the UK reacts to such a move.

[Mathilda]

Several high ranking officials in the EU have said that Scotland could be fast tracked in recognition that we actually voted to remain by a significant margin but are being taken out against our will. Also we have our own legal system. It's not likely that it would take as long as for an entirely new country that has to spend time and effort making sure it complies with EU law because at the moment we already do.

We're talking about a whole new country, if this were to happen. Regardless of what high ranking EU officials say, I can't imagine all the member states being in agreement with fast tracking Scotland. The best I could think of, would be special arrangements to associate the country and taking it from there to a full membership in the future.

But that's a lot of ifs. First, noone knows, if parliament agrees to a new referendum, if that ends up in favor of leaving the UK and how the UK reacts to such a move.

But Scotland already has its own legal system, its own parliament, even its own banks. So it's not creating a whole new country from scratch. It's already a part of the EU which means that its laws are already in compliance. The reason it takes so long with countries joining the EU is that all their laws need to be changed to meet certain conditions. This won't be required for Scotland because it's already been done. True there is much work to be done separating it from rUK but not as much as if you are breaking off Cornwall or even Wales for example.

And Westminster won't be able to stop Scotland from having a second referendum if there is enough demand for one. And denying Scots a second referendum will be the most effective way of creating that demand.


Besides it's in the EU's interests. What better way to make an example of the benefits of Europe and the dangers of leaving it?

[abaris]

Besides it's in the EU's interests. What better way to make an example of the benefits of Europe and the dangers of leaving it?

I have my doubts when it comes to Poland, Hungary and a few other countries. If they really want to make an example. The EU is nothing but the lowest common denominator between member states.

[Mathilda]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/201...2OZ-KALq0s

Miller said he voted to leave because he thought Brussels imposed some “silly” laws on the UK. “Why should we be dominated by them?” But he also had an unusual main reason for supporting leave. “I follow the prophesies in the Bible and a split in Europe was prophesied. Europe will never unite again. God has said so.”

My sister in law voted for Brexit for similar reasons, although she didn't admit it to me. I heard about it from my mum. This despite her husband being German who was born there but immediately moved to England and can't speak the language (he's at a citizenship ceremony this week to become British).

Apparently this was a general opinio at her evangelical church.

[Vera]

[Vera]

[EvieTheAvocado]

I gotta post this. I gotta.

[Dom]

European Court of Justice rules Britain can unilaterally cancel Brexit

Anti-Brexit campaigners heralded Monday's decision as a game-changer, boosting their hopes of reversing the divorce altogether.

The ruling comes at the start of what promises to be a week of high drama, one day before the most pivotal parliamentary vote in an almost three-year process.

However, the government attempted to pour cold water on this, saying the decision was irrelevant because there were no plans to deviate from the planned exit from the E.U. on March 29.

[Mathilda]

Theresa May postpones Brexit deal vote, reports say

Pound Sterling currently falling off a cliff right now. Press conference being held at 15:30


Breaking: British Pound "Whacked" by Euro and Dollar on News Parliament's Brexit Vote is Cancelled

The probability of the UK remaining in the EU has now doubled to 40%, the highest it has been since the referendum, say analysts at investment bank JP Morgan, offering a fundamental view that supports the formation of a technical floor we see forming under the Pound.

[Marozz]

Theresa May postpones Brexit deal vote, reports say

Pound Sterling currently falling off a cliff right now. Press conference being held at 15:30


Breaking: British Pound "Whacked" by Euro and Dollar on News Parliament's Brexit Vote is Cancelled

The probability of the UK remaining in the EU has now doubled to 40%, the highest it has been since the referendum, say analysts at investment bank JP Morgan, offering a fundamental view that supports the formation of a technical floor we see forming under the Pound.

Time to do some shopping across the border.

[Deesse23]

Dear Tommies,

please.make.your.fucking.mind.up.about.staying.with.continental.europe.or.not.....at.least.this.time. 

thanks

Germans

*goes back to re-schedule some invasion plans*

[abaris]

Theresa May postpones Brexit deal vote, reports say

Pound Sterling currently falling off a cliff right now. Press conference being held at 15:30


Breaking: British Pound "Whacked" by Euro and Dollar on News Parliament's Brexit Vote is Cancelled

The probability of the UK remaining in the EU has now doubled to 40%, the highest it has been since the referendum, say analysts at investment bank JP Morgan, offering a fundamental view that supports the formation of a technical floor we see forming under the Pound.

In any case, there has to be a decision before march '19. If they neither revoke Brexit nor accept the treaty, the automatism kicks in and it's a hard Brexit without any kind of compact. The EU already made it clear that there won't be more time for the Brits to make up their minds.

[Mathilda]

Dear Tommies,

please.make.your.fucking.mind.up.about.staying.with.continental.europe.or.not.....at.least.this.time. 

thanks

Germans

*goes back to re-schedule some invasion plans*

Half the country never changed their minds.

[adey67]

Here's my solution.

Theresa May........ Death by firing squad
Boris Johnson..... Death by hanging
David Cameron.... Burning at the stake
Jacob Rees-Mogg...Burning at the stake.

[Mathilda]

Boris Johnson..... Death by hanging ... from a giant zip wire while impaled with union flags.

[Marozz]

Here's my solution.

Theresa May........ Death by firing squad
Boris Johnson..... Death by hanging
David Cameron.... Burning at the stake
Jacob Rees-Mogg...Burning at the stake.

That leaves Jeremy Corbyn........

[Marozz]

May might just about win the vote of no confidence this evening. If she wins that still leaves the small problem of the DUP fuckers. They still hold all the aces.

[abaris]

Here's my solution.

Theresa May........ Death by firing squad
Boris Johnson..... Death by hanging
David Cameron.... Burning at the stake
Jacob Rees-Mogg...Burning at the stake.

And what do you have in mind for good old Nigel?

[Deesse23]

Here's my solution.

Theresa May........ Death by firing squad
Boris Johnson..... Death by hanging
David Cameron.... Burning at the stake
Jacob Rees-Mogg...Burning at the stake.

Ah, where have the good ole times have gone!? Those were the times.