(02-15-2020, 03:02 PM)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I'm just surprised to see Nixon ahead of so many.
He gets points for Paris.
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 He gets points for Paris. 
Franklin Pierce. Now there's an obscure president. I have no idea what he did or when he was president. I don't think I've ever heard a historian talk about him.
(02-15-2020, 03:15 PM)Dancefortwo Wrote: Franklin Pierce. Now there's an obscure president. I have no idea what he did or when he was president. I don't think I've ever heard a historian talk about him. Edit to add: I googled Pierce. From wikipedia: Quote:Pierce was popular and outgoing, but his family life was a grim affair, with his wife Jane suffering from illness and depression for much of her life.[1] All of their children died young, their last son being gruesomely killed in a train accident while the family was traveling shortly before Pierce's inauguration. He was a heavy drinker for much of his life, and he died of cirrhosis of the liver in 1869. Historians and scholars generally rank Pierce as one of the worst and least memorable U.S. Presidents.
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Mountain-high though the difficulties appear, terrible and gloomy though all things seem, they are but Mâyâ.
Fear not — it is banished. Crush it, and it vanishes. Stamp upon it, and it dies. Vivekananda 
The MSM news is not something I've tuned into for ages anyway, it's all just a show to distract us anyway.
That being said, it turns out what stresses me out is talking to other people. I'm currently finding the entire human race to be utterly depressing. Ice bergs shearing off, ocean full of plastic, people don't care. Well, not enough do. It's enough to make me not want to get out of bed in the morning. (02-15-2020, 05:13 PM)Aroura Wrote: The MSM news is not something I've tuned into for ages anyway, it's all just a show to distract us anyway. For perspective take a look at Dickens. Victorian England only had the MSM, the air was a lovely brown color and medicine had just discovered chloroform.  (02-15-2020, 03:50 AM)Dancefortwo Wrote: I just wanted to post one last thing in this thread. It is with great pleasure, on this President's Day weekend, to post the rankings of the presidents from best to worst, according to a national survey by the American Political Scientist Association. I would put Saint "trickle-down economics" Ronnie more towards the bottom. -Teresa
There is in the universe only one true divide, one real binary, life and death. Either you are living or you are not. Everything else is molten, malleable.
-Susan Faludi, In the Darkroom
There is in the universe only one true divide, one real binary, life and death. Either you are living or you are not. Everything else is molten, malleable.
-Susan Faludi, In the Darkroom (02-15-2020, 06:37 PM)Tres Leches Wrote: I would put Saint "trickle-down economics" Ronnie more towards the bottom. Full points for honesty, however. He forthrightly demonstrated that he was owned by plutocrats. 
Today is going to be my catch up on the news day. If Putin fires missiles at San Francisco tomorrow, I guess I'll find out by word of mouth or next weekend.
-Teresa
There is in the universe only one true divide, one real binary, life and death. Either you are living or you are not. Everything else is molten, malleable.
-Susan Faludi, In the Darkroom (02-15-2020, 06:40 PM)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:(02-15-2020, 06:37 PM)Tres Leches Wrote: I would put Saint "trickle-down economics" Ronnie more towards the bottom. He opened the door for the current potus, who boastfully does the same. -Teresa
There is in the universe only one true divide, one real binary, life and death. Either you are living or you are not. Everything else is molten, malleable.
-Susan Faludi, In the Darkroom
I don't feel any need to tune out the news, but I have tuned out whatever is going on in the "2020 US candidates" thread. I can easily live without that.
Mountain-high though the difficulties appear, terrible and gloomy though all things seem, they are but Mâyâ.
Fear not — it is banished. Crush it, and it vanishes. Stamp upon it, and it dies. Vivekananda 
02-16-2020, 03:27 PM
(This post was last modified: 02-16-2020, 03:28 PM by Mark.)
I turned off the news (02-15-2020, 03:50 AM)Dancefortwo Wrote: I just wanted to post one last thing in this thread. It is with great pleasure, on this President's Day weekend, to post the rankings of the presidents from best to worst, according to a national survey by the American Political Scientist Association. The only one I had a doubt about was #26. But after thinking about it some more I have to agree that he wasn't so effective while in office; but if they ranked ex-presidents from best to worst I'd put Carter at #1.
"Talk nonsense, but talk your own nonsense, and I'll kiss you for it. To go wrong in one's own way is better than to go right in someone else's.
―F. D. (02-16-2020, 03:27 PM)Mark Wrote:(02-15-2020, 03:50 AM)Dancefortwo Wrote: I just wanted to post one last thing in this thread. It is with great pleasure, on this President's Day weekend, to post the rankings of the presidents from best to worst, according to a national survey by the American Political Scientist Association. It seems like Carter was one of the most honest presidents we've had but he didn't have the clout to get anything passed except for his Camp David agreement. In many ways he was ahead of his times. He tried to promote solar energy and had some solar panels installed at the White House. Most people laughed and scoffed at him when he did this. Today he lives in a modest house and lives the simple life with his wife. He is one of the very few people whom (who?) I would call a true Christian. Mr. Rogers was another one.
(02-16-2020, 04:31 PM)Dancefortwo Wrote: It seems like Carter was one of the most honest presidents we've had but he didn't have the clout to get anything passed except for his Camp David agreement. In many ways he was ahead of his times. He tried to promote solar energy and had some solar panels installed at the White House. Most people laughed and scoffed at him when he did this. Today he lives in a modest house and lives the simple life with his wife. He is one of the very few people whom (who?) I would call a true Christian. Mr. Rogers was another one. I'm not really sure exactly what it takes to be a 'good' Christian but I'd rank those two, Mr. Rogers and Carter, right up there with Bill Moyers as my favorite/most interesting Christians at least.
"Talk nonsense, but talk your own nonsense, and I'll kiss you for it. To go wrong in one's own way is better than to go right in someone else's.
―F. D. 
Carter's flaw was that he was too idealistic to deal with DC slime.
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