Historical Jesus, Biblical Jesus

[JesseB]

I was telling you basically what he's been saying to us. it was a bit of a joke

Oh.

[...]the nastiness isn't the issue. It's the fact that he's trying to pass off a bad argument as a good argument that really annoys me. And he remains intentionally obtuse to any attempt to point that out. In short he's a typical chew toy. Keep in mind unlike you, I don't give a flying fuck how nasty or nice he or anyone else is. But I'm getting tired of banging my head on the brick wall that represents his thick skull.

People with bad arguments don't intentionally try to pass them off as good ... they just use bad arguments because they don't realize that they're bad.

Even if his intentions were negative ... I think they're irrelevant to what he actually said. Even if we were amazing mind readers I don't see how focusing on intentions or motives is useful, at all. Let's just focus on the arguments.

I don't give a flying fuck how nice or nasty someone else is either ... when it comes to debate. Unless the niceness and nastiness detracts from the debate because people focus on intentions and motives rather than claims and on the arguer rather than the argument.

Well just put him on your Ignore-List if you're completely tired of responding to him. That's what I did with Bucky and Shrodinger when I thought that they were a complete waste of my time.

I think you're wrong about @Bucky Ball but that's your call. And no I"m not going to ignore him or stop responding. I'm going to call out his shit because for the most part I'm not engaging him for his sake, I'm doing it because if I ignore him and his horse shit is left unchallenged the readers here won't have the counters to his bullshit claims. And yea it's tiring. and I"m not going to be nice, it's going to get a lot nastier because he's being dishonest not even attempting to listen to what anyone else is saying. 

And again this isn't a fucking debate, We have a debate thread for debates. THIS is a discussion which is why I would expect him to at least try to fucking listen, even just a little. I've given him some slack, I'd give him even more slack if he tried fucking listening.

And I know he doesn't realize his argument is bad.... that's what I've been trying to tell him that he refuses to listen to which is making this feel like banging head on wall.