Historical Jesus, Biblical Jesus

[Rhythmcs]

Sorry, in that post I left out a big part of my story, the part about the collection of Frank's sayings that was circulating from the time before he was crucified until the time when the gospels were first written, with or without any help from Paul, and whether he knew anything about it or not.

(later)
In my story, Frank repeated his sayings many times, in private lessons and public talks, and some of his devoted followers did the same. They spread far and wide, and continued to circulate among his followers until whenever the gospels were first written. I haven't decided yet what to say in my story about how much Paul had to do with that, or knew about it. It seems to me like he would have heard some of those sayings, and it looks to me like he got some ideas from them for some of the advice he gave to the churches.

You didn't leave it out, you mentioned it - it just doesnt matter, if The Frank and the guy that Paul thought was frank who came as a real apparition and god to paul, are meaningfully distinct, as you described.  Paul may have been aware of many people who said smart things, and the faithful have a long history of putting the smart things other people say into the mouth of their gods.