(07-20-2022, 09:33 PM)Rhythmcs Wrote: 2k years ago people had to somehow get a bunch of bread to somehow distribute to a bunch of disaffected poor people so that they could somehow grab their attention long enough to spread the good news..and in some cases, they needed political or administrative or social cover to do so because it was either illegal or severely looked down upon. There is just such an exchange, recounted by a christian apologist, as an argument with a pagan objecter, which our christian apologist wins by accepting the accusation and then reaming the pagan for failing to provide those services to the poor..in the christians own records. You know why accusations of tax dodging were so popular with pagan detractors? Because they wanted to tie successful charitable operations to criminal fraud against the emperors treasury. Familiar? Recognizable?
Starting the christian religion as we know it today took alot of money and alot of friends in high places, and that had an effect on the christianity that arose, just like it still has an effect on the christianities which are succeeding today. What about this causes you to fly off into that comment above? We're talking about a global empire with assets like..golden thrones and city states.... and the suggestion that these people were good at marketing, business, and politicking is just too much....?
No one "started the Christian religion". There is no "Christian religion"
There are 35,000 sects which all fundamentally disagree about something.
The communities which independently arose were/was not a centralized process.
You have no evidence for this "a lot of money" What is your evidence ?
You were asked for evidence above,. You ignored the request.
EVENTUALLY they were organized by Rome AFTER they were well established.
You make a lot of assertions, (which seems to be pretty common here).
You post no support when asked.
You are quite cynical.
Are you trying to say none of these people actually sincerely believed what they were spending their lives doing ?
You are blinded by your presentism.
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